Interview by Dan Taylor
stars come from all walks of life. One
might be the fresh-faced girl from your
grade school math class. Maybe that nursing
student who visited you in the hospital.
Marilyn Chambers was an Ivory Snow box
model when BEYOND THE GREEN DOOR made
her famous and paved the way for porn's
acceptance in the mainstream.
-- one of porndom's current queens and star
of 100+ films -- found a unique entree into
the adult industry...it was her post-Army
temp job. Rage, who gets naughty in flicks
like NEKTAR, POINT OF ENTRY, DUKES OF ANAL,
COUNTRY GIRL and the upcoming BLACK WIDOW
spoke with us about the industry's latest
AIDS-related scare, her background, and
where one of porn's nastiest girls draws
attracted you to getting involved in the
The real truth, or do you want a fake one?
one do you want me to print?
You can print the truth. I had just gotten
out of the Army, and when you're out of
the Army they don't pay you very much. They
pay you enough just for your very, very
basics, so I didn't have any cash. I had
quit my job when I went in the Army, so
I came out and had no job. I was looking
to get in the medical field, well it was
almost Christmas time, and no one's going
to hire during Christmas. So I needed some
cash to float me through, and I answered
this ad to do nude modeling for a magazine.
And it happened to be Jim South, who's like
the big mogul of the agencies, and he took
me to lunch.
So he says,
"By the way, we occasionally cast for
movies." And I said, "What kind
of movies," duh... And he said, "Adult
you mean like R movies?"
like sex movies." This is how naive
I am. In the meantime I met a guy named
Alex Sanders who is a big actor in the business
and he liked me and said he wanted to do
a movie with me. I thought he was cute and
I said, "Okay!" Then he told me
how much he'd pay me and I said, "OKAY!"
I was really
nervous because I had been celibate when
I was in the Army, 'cause when you're in
training you're not allowed to do that kind
were in the Army for how long?
Just long enough to get my training, I'm
still a reserve.
I did my
scene and I went back to Jim and said, "Let's
do this." Ever since then it's just
snowballed, and here I am now. I didn't
think I'd be in this long, I was looking
at it like a temp job to float me through.
"I can make this much money? I think
I'll put a hold on that medical bill for
long do you plan on staying in the business?
Maximum, another three to five years. After
that...? I'm starting to venture out into
different areas. I just did my first movie
for CDI Home Video; it was basically just
a gonzo, doing the kinds of sex that I want
done. I got to direct it and write the script
and say, "This is what I want to see."
I don't want to see silly dialogue. If you're
gonna do dialogue, do it right. I can act
dialogue, but I can't direct another person
to do [it]. We just deleted that out and
made it a lot of T&A. They're very happy
with it, but it hasn't been released yet.
It's supposed to be released in the next
of the things that interests me about the
porn business is the way it reverses the
Hollywood framework. The women have all
the power, and it's many of the female stars
that you see setting up their own production
companies, directing, producing, etc.
Guys buy the tapes to see us. Most of the
guys don't even like to see the guy's "cum
shot face." They want to pretend it's
them. Where in Hollywood the powerhouses
are the guy actors. There's a few really
good women actresses, but mostly when you
go to see a movie it's because of the guy.
In adult you go to watch the pretty girl
get naked and nasty.
also part of the popularity of the all-girl
stuff. Most guys want to imagine themselves
in that setting without the interference
of a male star.
Well, most of the guys go wild because they
don't get that at home. It's like the fantasy
trip..."I wish my girl did that so
I could come home and catch her with all
prefer doing girl-girl, or are you just
as happy doing a guy?
Good question. I like both...in my personal
life I'm married to a man, but I've dated
more women than I've dated men. Outside
of business, I've only dated four guys my
whole life. I've dated a LOT of girls.
considered yourself bi even before you got
Oh, a long time. It was definitely not a
stretch for me to do a girl-girl [scene].
It's fun doing a girl-girl just because
women are pretty. I like doing both, it's
just a different type of sex.
your first sexual experience with another
girl or a guy?
With a girl. When I was a teenager.
somebody you were friends with...?
My best friend. She was older than me and
she molested me, so to speak.
you liked it.
Oh I liked it.
you married to someone in the industry?
Yeah, I'm married to Greg Steele, and he's
a director. He just did that big movie CONQUEST.
[Ed. Note: A porno pirate movie starring
Jenna Jameson, Asia Carrerra, Shayla La
Veaux, and others.] He does a lot of the
bigger budget movies and I'm his production
manager. I have different lil' ol' things
that I do. I don't just act or just direct...it's
good training for me in case I decide I
really want to do this directing thing.
I dabbled in it this one time and I'm considering
you gotten into any situations where a producer
or director asked you to do something where
you said, "Whoa, no thanks! That's
just too weird."
Yeah, a director called me up one time and
wanted me to do him in the butt. I said,
"Nah," I just totally turned that
down. I'm known as being pretty nasty, I
just don't want to see a guy taking it in
the butt unless it's a gay movie. That was
just a little too creepy. I had another
director ask me, I forget what they call
it, but the guy comes in a girl's butt and
another girl sucks it out? That's a little
too gross for me. I mean, I'll take a pop
shot on the face, but I'm not gonna suck
it out of someone's butt! Especially their
butt! I think they call it "felching..."
anything with a name like that doesn't sound
too inviting. I just heard that John Stagliano
(creator of the Buttman series and one of
the most prolific producer/ directors in
the business) was diagnosed with HIV. How
has that affected the porn industry? I also
heard he didn't pass it on to anyone else
No he did not. Thank god. I worked on a
movie he did called Buttman and the Crack.
At that time, I wasn't dating anyone and
he asked me if I wanted to go out on a date.
I just didn't think it was a cool thing
to do. Here he was being my director, and
it just went over the line, it wasn't professional.
how has his illness affected the industry,
and how does the fear of AIDS affect the
overall choices that you make?
It changed my choices for a while because
I wasn't getting any work. I was saying,
"Look, I'll do a girl-girl, I have
no problems with that." Because I don't
think you're going to catch anything from
a girl unless you've got an open wound in
your mouth. This sounds gross, but I don't
brush my teeth before a sex scene. I put
Listerine in my mouth, but I don't brush
because I don't want to open up any gums
or have any type of scratches. I make sure
I'm careful as far as girl-girl goes. If
someone has open wounds or lesions, I won't
touch 'em. If I have a cut, sometimes your
lips get dry, I won't do any oral.
as the way it affected the boy-girl, for
a while there there was a six-week window
of time before we knew who had what, because
it takes two 30-day tests before you know.
get tested on a regular basis?
I get tested every 30 days. I told them,
"In the meantime, if you want me to
do a boy-girl, I will. Condom only, and
there's going to be no facial pop shots
until we know." Some directors were
very cool about that, some other ones, the
ones who rely real heavily on the European
sells, had to keep shooting just as if nothing
was happening. That's the only way they
make any profit. They just break even in
the United States, and the Europeans will
not buy movies with condoms. So I lost a
lot of work. I just went on the road and
the scare is over I'm selective about what
guys I will work with...people that I know
personally, I know their habits, I know
that they're not shooting up, I know they're
not swingers, and I know they're really
careful. A lot of girls are still doing
said that you get tested every 30 days.
Is that pretty common in the industry?
You have to get tested every 30 days or
you will not work. No one will work with
you, and the company will not shoot you.
Just like having your id's is a must.
does your family feel about what you do?
My Mom knows and she is very supportive.
She wishes that I was doing something else,
but she's not going to disown me, and she
loves me. Her only comment was, "Well,
I guess I can't watch cable anymore."
you grow up in a very strict background?
Yes and no. I grew up in a Southern Baptist
home, we were very religious. But my Mom,
because when she was younger she was a hippy,
about the sex issue was always very open,
very easy to talk to, informative. There
was never any embarrassment about nudity,
she would get dressed in front of me, take
a bath in front of me. So I grew up in a
very sexually healthy environment. Other
than that it was really strict.
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